RULE 5: A photo of a tweet proving this is true. I also can't control the mousewheel speed from Windows, i. Subscribe. I don’t notice my game slowing down that much in the late game and my cpu is an i7-4790k and have 12gb ram with a gtx980. Stellaris uses only one core and isn't multi-level enabled. Yeah, it does. As it stands right now - just as game become really GRAND - with huge fleets, empires and stuff, it becomes unplayable. I did a quick test, essentially making pops need 1/10th the progress to grow and found that it actually improved my performance substantially. Really enjoy long drawn out games where I can plan and micromanage. Less pops means less of that as well, which is what EDAI provides some of for late-game. It takes quite a long time to reach the point where its unplayable, and its settings dependant at that. Being a beta there are some issues, but performance is WAY better than anything between 2. Running out of RAM or running low can cause a sudden unexpected slowdown late game even when no fights are taking place. 77 Badges. The mod gets the AI under control without affecting the gameplay of players and almost not affecting (as much as possible) the. Having a dozen of such fleets also makes fleet manager borderline unusable. Pulling population rights, and calculating if a pop can be eligible for promotion. ago. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. Your. For me it used to be 800 star galaxy, least possible habitable worlds, 1. The only notable slowdown at normal speed is fleets moving along hyperlanes. The problem is at the level of mechanics and mathematics. This is getting on my nervous and I'm trying to figure out what the cause is, but as things progress into the late game I get this strange lag when I'm on the galaxy map at about medium height up which lets you see a lot of systems while still showing their details. Rule 4: I'm having trouble with late game lag and want to know what causes it. I think the issue is due to whatever information the game keeps sending to Paradox that causes this. I did some digging around and found that some major causes of late game lag are large number of. If your empires tend to have many different species in them, synthetic ascension will help reduce some lag. Eventually late game lag will cause the game to crash and these crashes will become more and more frequent as the save progresses. If you have struggled through the pain, you will know this all to well. Infinity's mod automatically merges species together and keep the count low (because guess what, even without xeno-compatibility you're gonna have 100+ species in. e. Game Version: 3. No matter how many cores you had, you would get the same performance (assuming equal CPU clock speed but different CPU core count) SImilarly, limitations may apply to Stellaris' code which means that your hardware specs may be irrelevant to some degree. The Lag. I get lag as well but only once the L-Gates start operating! And as it goes to Late Game Stage the lag worsens. Hearts of iron is shameful at current state. I have a high end gaming computer and the interface is responsive, but the fastest time setting has slowed down all the way to 1 day per 2 seconds. Lol its like Moo all over again. Sunburnt_Hobo • 2 yr. Sports. Late-game crisis can clear out some of the POPs, Thanos style, but it's a game of patience at this point and it's not fun. 2 to 2. 4, to address the performance issue that appeared for many of you with Tuesday's 3. AGEOD Team. 7 it is the worst I have ever seen it, taking about 3-4 minutes to pass a single day in the game. ago. Not. Stellaris should absolutely be run in fullscreen (you select it in the launcher) with VSync disabled and fast sync forced in your graphics cards control panel, but that goes for pretty much every game. 3. Very easy to validate on your PC. Set habitable planets to the lowest. Stellaris is derived from the Paradox engine which has been refactored/reworked since Paradox is Paradox. That's why there's late-game lag. I've tried several things I've found over the internet regarding this, like disabling V-sync and logging off the PDX. One way of solution was playing conqueror, and use a mod, that disables core sector limit. it's a coding problem. Some of the causes of fleet selection lag, and how to deal with them. Hello! I have a pretty decent 10800 system, and haven't played for 1. There is no consumer CPU out there yet that can handle the largest maps on default settings without any late game slowdown. There is no reason to play this game otherwise. Might have found a way to reduce late game lag from l-gates . Mid-game, the timer starts to slow down, but by late game, even on fastest speed, the time will be a day a second max, versus five days a. There are some mods that help with the lag, but those mess up the already messed up AI. NFL. But that specific fleet out of all of my fleets is the one that causes my game to lag if I click it, so I just deleted it. This explains why the 'exotic' planets which generates 1 new job for a strategy resource every 5 new pops seem to cause a lot of lag. Late game lag. the main reason for lag in end game is the internal ai trying to calculate too much stuff. You'll still find wormholes to unique systems and in the very late game a sparse amount of gateways will still be possible (mostly from awakened fallen empires). No one's CPU is. So, yeah. Very excited for the 2. There is the "ScanLine Sync" option to play with. Mid-to-Late game - I can't even play wih Normal speed. Video capture demo'ing issue in both icons as well as mouseover tooltips attached. I've never experienced "lag" in any Paradox game. Animals and Pets Anime Art Cars and Motor Vehicles Crafts and DIY Culture, Race, and Ethnicity Ethics and Philosophy Fashion Food and Drink History Hobbies Law Learning and Education Military Movies Music Place Podcasts and Streamers Politics Programming Reading, Writing, and Literature Religion and Spirituality Science Tabletop Games. If you don’t mind a bit of genocide, world cracking is a great strategy for speeding up game time. 1 - As we all know - Endgame lag, the game checks every pop, every day for anything. this is the main reason i play hive minds or purifiers because the other empires cant cause lag when there are none of them left. But late game lag gets to be terrible, and my system is no slacker. This leaves the game CPU bound on a single core. In general performance slows down a good bit after 2375, so if you stick with default, you may never actually see endgame because you quit after it slows down. As the game progresses there are too many objects to track for a single core to keep up. Fixing late-game lag. if you play on large, swap to medium or small] I recommend mods that allow you to do more with less pops. Go to properties, and I think there’s a tab somewhere for overlay. literally. 1. 2. Hi! Does anyone have any tips regarding the late gmae lag? I find myself beign unable to finish any game, most of the time I didn't even make it to the late game crisis because the game becoming such a slogfest before that time. 0. So after the Utopia/1. Go to Fleet Manager carefully delete dozens or hundreds of "empty" fleets you created without realizing it. Business, Economics, and Finance. Is there a way to expedite the 8+ hours I'd have to wait to get my first win achievement. Reply. Wheter the engine is 32 or 64 bit has little to no effect on performance of this game. 144. Hi all, We've now released a hotfix, 3. Also, the game needa optimization, it's pretty buggy as of now. Heavy use of both trading and gateway space station is also a recipe for maxing out CPU main thread's processing time. Try playing Factorio if you want to try playing an optimized game. i hope to god this gets updated soon it was honestly the only reason i even had infinite stellaris downloaded cause it reall did make a massive diffrence lowering end game lagThe problem of lag/stutter with Stellaris is when you play logged to Paradox. 3. Looking at Ryzen Master it seems like Stellaris uses multiple cores whenever it does the calculations at the end of each month and still, 4. The number of pops rises as the game goes on, which is one of the things that causes the lag to get worse. finally, go through your specs, and look up for each [¨Part name¨ lag in stellaris] to see if anyone has fixes. •. 2. Fix. Other then mentioned settings a way better cpu or wait for paradox to improve better. Claims by the gaming community who play stellaris, after reading the game requirements here on Steam (i-5 3470k) I am having doubts on hyperthreading This causes me pain and suffering, so. Stellaris isn't optimized for multicore. The main way is if one mod is writing a ton of errors due to conflicting mod files or wrong mod load order that would cause it to slow way down. The problem is fairly regular for me in the late game. Like seriously, I would have arorund 500. It's not game breaking, but it's quite annoying and definitely affects my experience negatively. My problem is that the game will pause in the lategame but display that it's still running norml so I have to abuse my spacebar until it properly pauses and releases it again. I have yet to play longer than about 2400 though because after absorbing FEs and destroying the unbidden portal (never seen another crisis) there is usually not much left to do. The thing that lags late game the most is the amount of different pops with different traits so turn of xenocompatability and set primitives and/or other empires as low as your willing to go. It's a nearly decade old game running on a nearly 2 decade old engine. way up until the late game when everything runs slow due to all the AI processes (NOTE: Reducing amount of AI empires, and more specifically with mods, to make them. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris • by Anakin1882 Celestial Empire Late game too slow. You can tie the FPS to the refresh rate but double it or half it. This should be standard in any player, sorry Gamer™ toolbox. This causes A LOT of lag, even in the early game. Didn't fix the issue though because I had 43% of the galaxy's pops. I really would appreciate if someone could help. Pathfinding of ships costs a lot of performance though, even if they aren't. This forces me to downsize from playing medium galaxies, to small. OddballAdvent • 7 min. Hi, folks! I have a 12900k processor with liquid cooling, and even THEN I find that late game pop lag to be unacceptable, and that a setting that defaults to "on"(that is unchangeable mid game) that nerfs pop growth into the dirt after 1-2k, is completely unacceptable. I'm running a Ryzen 7 3700x, superior to your CPU, and there is noticeable slowdown in the late game, worse than. However there appears to be an issue with 2. My most recent playthrough has more or less stopped functioning. You can tie the FPS to the refresh rate but double it or half it. This last game was played in the 2. It also helps (a smaller amount) to turn down the habitable worlds setting. I consider myself a bit of an avid player to Stellaris, and while no where near as devout as some people here on the forum, I've considered Paradox a pretty cool company to look for interesting games since Majesty, the original. When you reach mid to late game it just keeps crashing every couple years since the mega corp update. It's that the entire economy is broken atm. Jan 6, 2014 1. The late-game lag in Stellaris since the patch is significantly worse than in other Paradox games. Although it's caused by pop numbers, I've found that disabling the Steam overlay helps significantly. It gives a bunch of options that can reduce lag, but some of them might alter your experience. Mar 30, 2020. it will still lag, but not quite so bad. 5 seconds, then lag for . Recently, two friends and I have found the time to play Stellaris multiplayer together – unfortunately, this has been extremely problematic. Aug 16, 2021. Its a known issue with the game, which is why there are population controls in the game settings (Logistic Growth Ceiling and Growth Required Scaling) as well as the ability to turn off the Xeno-Compatibility ascension perk (which causes even more. These are also important for improving late game performance by slowing pop growth. I've found, with default growth settings, this is already enough for most games to reach the vanilla end date without pop growth tanking anywhere near as much as it does now by the mid/late game. 5GHz processor, eight gigs of RAM. I got a i5 6600k ~ 4,4Ghz + 980ti. ago. I find limiting the mods I use helps. Good PC. ) but get over yourself PDX. . It gets quite slow in the late game and you just need to live with it. I have a few hundred hours in stellaris, but I got a new laptop and stellaris runs much slower on it. 3 patch. It only affects how much RAM the game can adress. For example, selecting a 6/7 battleship fleet deep in hostile territory, or simply owning one and opening. But there is a simple fix to this: Most of the lag is created by the calculation of pop jobs and trade routes which is made every day. Not even Stellaris or eu4 lags like that fully modded. My favorite is watching fully formed citadels just spring magically to life in AI space. With zero min/maxing the tech tree should not be completed within 120 years, and the 'late game' economy should not result in. Also had's mod won't reduce unemployment in end-game, which itself can lag up the game some, no matter what. The amount of ships seems to be irrelevant, only the fleet power number contributes to the lag. ago. Bigger than medium is for supercomputers. Regardless of what we’ve tried, the two “client” players constantly lag behind the “server” player by several in-game days, causing the game to constantly stutter. 2, the maximum number of pops a planet can house was 25, and these planets were rare. 8GHz should be good enough to handle early to mid-game. McFishTheFish • 2 mo. The most helpful thing is to play with smaller galaxies. It was bad but managable. 9 - GTX960) OFC on my old Q6600 @2. more specifically late game stuttering or simulation speed slowdown, even with large 1000 star galaxies with x1. Kill them all, to free your cpu. FPS increases but there is every 3 seconds something like 2 sec "freeze" Deeper into the game it gets worse and worse. Civics Expanded+. Measures to reduce the lag can be to turn off xeno compatibility which will reduce the variety of. Edit: i hope the 2x crisis strength will shake things up, im getting the feeling that delaying mid and late game made things too easy. I also play on low graphics 1080p as I don't have a dedicated GPU, bloom off, and cap framerate at 30 as it just can't maintain 60fps. #5. The control panel pops up soon as the game loads, do NOT close it because many settings can only be changed right at game start. I was just worried that I had something wrong with it. I was getting really tired of in-game lag on my 6-year old computer. I ships not being upgraded. The lag is also inconsistent between saves. . I want to paint the map with my spawn! My seed! Well, good news! I have been making a mod that halved pop count, and has. A major revamp of the issues causing endgame lag has been done in the recent overhaul of patch 3. Hopefully Paradox will require all mods to be distributed zipped at some point. Federations gave you more to do and then either that or next patch improved performance so it became much more bearable to play into late game. Cant do shit ~120 years in. One month in 30s also isn't a bad speed. 43 Badges. If you don’t have the cash to get yourself an Intel Core i5 12000K, a GeForce RTX 3080, and 32GB of RAM, then modding the game to reduce lag is the way to go. Part of the equation really is that Stellaris is pretty CPU hungry and probably always will be. Stellaris is my. This is shown with the 00 performance mod, which is often recommended. 7 update, but when I loaded a late-game 2. I imagine this may be an issue late, LATE game, but even then, considering what is going on in this game versus Stellaris. The main culprit for lag in stellaris is pops, you can fix this by reducing planets to 0. Any Portrait Mod. Hard for me to gauge though, it was never really that bad for me, noticeable but entirely bearable. I just want to play the endgame crisis. Stellaris - Severe lag when selecting fleets after significant engagement. i have no mods installed and have verified cache it happens no matter what game speed i use. ) Dormant Gates. Building a new R5 3600 machine next week and excited to see what 1000-star games are like. , there is a bug in the current version which causes several second freezes during AI colonial wars, but a mild version of that bug could manifest itself as more of a lag on fast systems). Report. 3 beta patch but it doesn't seem to play any better than the 2. The AI for what is worth, does the same, adding to this pile greatly. So before Federations patch, the game would slow down after 150 years or so, at late game. You'll still find wormholes to unique systems and in the very late game a sparse amount of gateways will still be possible (mostly from awakened fallen empires). So,. 4 to see if it's fixed for me or not. Thinking something causes bug somewhere that makes this happen as previously was different kind of lag then I encountered now. Xeno Compatibility is always banned by mod just for this. Neither of those seem to have a major fps crash though, at least not that i've observed. Also don't make HUGE sectors. aka dont touch the mice. Then you haven't played in the circumstances which cause the late game lag, or you're getting it and not recognizing it. That's just how the game works, PDX tried to work around it by significantly reducing pop count but it only does so much. This would be easier to calculate because its just a simple set of numbers being. So you want to reduce those. 9 will improve performance as Paradox will do some changes to pops so everyone has much less pops and each patch also slightly improves performance. 2. However, I think It's NOT the slowed growth per se. 3. LostThyme •. Every time you hit a new month the game completely freezes. I already had the standard Stellaris late-game lag, but under 2. sm303030 Feb 23 @ 7:21am. ) Dormant Gates should be dropped to 0 2. 3. But there is a simple fix to this: Most of the lag is created by the calculation of pop jobs and trade. Performance slowdown It would not be THAT bad should a game month be at least somehow comparable with early game performance. Open task manager and change the CPU view to logical processors. 25 and reduce the end game year back 100 years so the game doesn't have to run for so long and more stuff happens. Where FTL means faster than light. In late game the time advancement may slow down a bit sometimes, but not the fps. Be aware that this is a heavly modded game (like 60 mods) and although I got some lag at late game still it was playable till the very end. Fix Late Game Lag. By the time 2250 rolls around the lag is so bad I'm getting 1 day passing every 2-3. You gotta bring that midgame and endgame forward if you want to play the crisis before late game lag becomes an issue. The longer I play Stellaris, the more micro-lag i accumulate . 6 playthrough in the new patch, the game got catastrophically slow. it tends to happen late-game). Stellaris 50348 Bug Reports 30675 Suggestions. Genocide. the population/pop job calculation and the trade value/piracy calculation cause a lot of this lag and it doesn't scale well into late game with the population count. I don't know if its the extra habitats or what. The biggest cause of lag is too many pops so minimizing how much pops there are helps, in theory 2. Last is CPU speed. The calculation uses multiplication whenever it's possible. Population is what causes game lag with how many calculations that run around them. And yes, always turn off Xeno-Compatibility as it is one of the number one causes of late game lag. it will still lag, but not quite so bad. Even though combat is basic but so is pretty much everything in Stellaris lol . I don't have great hardware with a I7-4790K,. 3. #3. I know the pop numbers sim from civs causes the hella lag. Baron Jukaga Loyalist Commander. The Factorio dev team is amazing. Late game performance tips that work. Forget late-game tech, what Stellaris needs is late-game story pack content. I already had the standard Stellaris late-game lag, but under 2. ErenIsNotADevil • 1 yr. For the love of god, stop adding features that slow down the game more and more until you fix late game lag. The file started at 2356. Stellaris is going to lag no matter what your hardware is. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement. Smooth experience. (i dont build them myself if i have this mod on) Also made the wars a lot cleaner not having to fight though every system with 5-6 habitats. It might be your federation fleet (s) if relevant, as they have less of a limit on fleet size. I have been seeing quite a few posts with people saying that they have no lag late game, even with slower systems and larger galaxy sizes. I can't remember, but late game Stellaris frametimes are all over the place, so you don't want that either. You can have a fancy CPU or GPU, but the games coding makes it worthless. This is caused by high pop counts, among other things. I also hope that theyre adding more. Play on smaller galaxy sizes. - play on a smaller galaxy size [i. Starting at the mid-game, the decrease in performance accelerates and the performance gap between versions widens dramatically. In one save, in a medium sized galaxy, I can control 10 million fleet power fleets with no issues. Late game lag. Performance is also improved proportionately. the games #1 reason for lag is the internal ai trying to calculate stuff for pops and if you have, say for example, 4k pops. My favorite is watching fully formed citadels just spring magically to life in AI space. it happens even if i dont do anything. Hi, folks! I have a 12900k processor with liquid cooling, and even THEN I find that late game pop lag to be unacceptable, and that a setting that defaults to "on"(that is unchangeable mid game) that nerfs pop growth into the dirt after 1-2k, is completely unacceptable. ago. . the fastest supercomputer on the planet could not run this game smoothly. This also makes housing buildings and clerks a little more important/powerful, too, in my experience. Some mods can help like my mod prevent ai from spamming habitats various other performance mods. Tried every console command there is. So, yeah. For quire a few reasons: 1. The lag used to only be a late game issue (causing me to never finish a game of Stellaris), but it has now spread to mid-game as well sadly, and I see DLC upon DLC being released as if it's all fine and normal when the BASIC issue of the game, the performance, has never been properly addressed. Agreed. For my i5-3450 Stellaris abuts in 1 core using only 63% of all CPU's power. 3. The biggest fleet I have is like 8K, and the whole galaxy still hasn't been taken, but my computer slows down so much. in a number of setups that causes the lategame lag to just become a slowdown - so the game runs like syrup, but it runs #1. It's the exact same problem, only starting 25-50 years later and the performance issues still prevent games from being playable past the mid game stages. Plain and simple, game used to run smoothly. Rule #5: Most end-game lag comes from pops, so I removed the lag source from other empires. It's the thousands of ships all over the galaxy, each having data about it being updated 24 times a day. So after taking a break from stellaris (2. The main issue comes back to lag. How much does the number of stars effect performance?The main complaint that "habitat spamming" causes late game lag is widespread enough that the developers have acknowledged it and promised a solution. Small map has helped late game lag for me. 6. In late game with large modded stacks rendering individual ships themselves generates a lot of both frame time and render time. 1) One of your planets is stuck in a job-loop. In my test game, while in a system with a stack of all fleets, FPS goes from 9. Its about pops (not just yours, all the pops in the galaxy). 10 and I let the game run at maximum speed for 1 real life minute without touching the mouse or keyboard. 2. A major task for the late game is to prepare for the end-game crisis. I know you can't make people pay for performance improvements (I think. Stellaris Stuttering late game. Late game stellaris is a chaotic place, full of lag. The best way I can describe it is it's like the game Alt-Tabbed itself but got stuck halfway. A guy said a couple days ago that using a mod to disable l gates and removing wormholes and gateways improves the performances significantly since ai wont try to. Can anybody confirm that hayperlane only games run better late game, due to lessc laculations being made? I have a good rig but tons of mods, currently I can not play more than 600 stars, without. The trick is that the game crashes between 2300 - 2400 and corrupts its saves so you can't even transfer your save to another platform. I already had the standard Stellaris late-game lag, but under 2. Thinking something causes bug somewhere that makes this happen as previously was different kind of lag then I encountered now. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris • by GlompSpark. #2. My friend's 13900k isn't really any faster either. Well first you may want to ensure you have Xeno-compatibility set to “off” before starting any game. The thing that lags late game the most is the amount of different pops with different traits so turn of xenocompatability and set primitives and/or other empires as low as your willing to go. been sat on the game for 3 days straight and it's gone 30 years. however the start was always decently smooth. 3 the late game lag is hideous. – Flater Feb 12, 2020 at 1:22 1 Late game lag is horrible. 1 AngrySayian • 1 yr. I don't suggest changing pop growth stuff unless you know what you're doing. Even if I change the display to windowed, it freezes so badly, it produces two windows. The lag is so bad it drops me to 6-10 FPS and I can't figure out the cause. Late game lag aside, this is a separate issue that happens right from the beginning. Growth Required Scaling – . I'm playing on a laptop with an NVIDIA 950M graphics card. (I5 k6600@3. Tree Diagram May 14, 2016 @ 6:22pm. 3. PDX, please, commit to some form of fix for late-game lag. Pathfinding of ships costs a lot of performance though, even if they aren't. Deciding how you prepare for the end-game crisis can determine your goals for the late game. The amount of ships seems to be irrelevant, only the fleet power number contributes to the lag. I prefer 2. , an. The further into a save you get you will start to experience something known as late game lag. The answer is quantity of habitable worlds. I am having heavy lag in late game. It runs at ~1 day/second at 1x speed and at 3x speed. Certain systems, (ones with tons of pops) still might lag a little, but significantly less so that when unmerged. Less pops means less of that as well, which is what EDAI provides some of for late-game. #8. Tried every console command there is. For example, selecting a 6/7 battleship. ) Late-game slowdown was a big problem when the game first came out, then it seemed like it mostly got fixed for awhile, but I played a couple of games before the Overlord dlc came out and noticed that late-game slowdown was a problem again.